Peaky Blinders: The Immortal Man (2026)

Peaky Blinders Movie - Big Budget, Dumb Ideas

In this episode of All Those Moments, we dive into the bloody waters of Peaky Blinders: The Immortal Man including its themes, performances, and whether we think it lives up to the legacy of the series.

We also explore how this changes the trajectory of Tommy Shelby’s story (especially when compared to how the show concluded), the historical and political backdrop shaping the narrative, and whether or not we think the overall project was a success. Is this a fitting continuation for the Peaky Blinders or is Netflix going to spin this thing off into something else entirely?

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  The most traumatized mobster in Interwar Britain gets his Swan Song during the German Blitz. Without the majority of his explosive family, though, the final chapter ends not with a bang, as they say, but a whimper. The movie is called Peaky Blinders, The Immortal Man. This podcast was called All Those Moments. I'm Benji Wade. And I'm Luke Baumgotton.

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  Nein, nein, nein, nein, nein. All those moments is a podcast where we connect social, political, or cultural moments with moments from our favorite movies. If you like spoiler-filled detailed conversations about movies, you have come to the right place. So, by order of the Peaky Blinders, hit that subscribe button. That's good. Luke, I'm gonna hit you out of left field to start this episode talking about Peaky Blinders, the Immortal Man.

  First of all, I'd I'd bump on that title. Do you like the title, The Immortal Man? I just can't. I hear some weird, ominous, silly voice, movie trailer voice in my head when I see the immortal man. I it's like it was were they going for a Hemingway thing? Were they going for like everybody who was traumatized in World War One either dies or becomes a novelist? I don't know what they were going for there. I don't love it either.

  Anyways, I just also want to say, fans of Peaky Blinders, my name is Benji. I come in peace. I neither hated nor loved this movie. So just buckle up for there will be some things I'll say about this movie and the TV series to some degree. That if you're a huge fan Peaky Blinders, you might not agree with me, but I will be as constructive as I can. Again, I come in peace.

  I'm a big Peaky Blinders fan, and I think I might be more critical of the movie than you are, I guess. I watched maybe like the first two seasons of Peaky Blinders, right? About when they came out and there was a long break. And then I think I watched the third and maybe part of the fourth, and then there was a long break. And then when we decided to do this movie, I watched five and six in the last couple weeks.

  You need to have watched. the TV series to get a sense of mo the depth of some of these characters and the nuance, but really like it almost seems like a re not a reboot, but like it's it completely stands apart from the series because the series wraps up, which I I literally just got done watching the final episode of the series like 30 minutes ago. Yep.

  It wraps up pretty co like conclusively, convincingly, cohesively and almost like for Peaky Blinders, which is a very bleak but stylish show, about as hopefully as that kind of show could

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  Wrap up. So in case you missed it, Peaky Blinders ran for six seasons as a TV show between 2013 and 2022. First with the BBC first with BBC Two in the UK, later with BBC One when it blew up and became popular and BBC realized they had a themselves a huge hit. Yeah. Netflix took notice. They licensed the international distribution rights for everywhere outside the UK.

  It went on to become one of the most I I would say for both Netflix and BBC, stylistically recognizable pieces of IP that they have on their service. And I would say in like yeah, I think of British filmmakers as being pretty kinetic and stylish filmmakers as like a group.

  I think this has always stood up there to me, which is why, like, not unlike Sinners, which is also a very cinematic and stylishly shot film, like I've always been thinking about this as like, you know, if Guy Ritchie did a period piece, that's like the Peaky Blinders vibe for me. I think I watched the first two seasons and I remember liking it a lot for those two seasons, but I got very bored very quickly by the third season.

  Not even Tom Hardy could pull me back in. I love Killian Murphy. Yeah. I thought Sam Neil was a great villainous, kind of righteous prick character. Yeah. I had forgotten. We are going to spoil some things about the TV show, by the way. We will certainly spoil the movie. So I'm going to try not to do spoil either one right now, though. Sure, sure, sure.

  I also have have and had and will always have a total crush on Annabelle Wallace who plays his wife, Grace, or his his love interest, Grace. And I loved her. And you and I talked about this at the end of watching The Immortal Man together, how much I loved the Tutors. And she was a key part of that. TV show. Totally. And I think Peaky Blinders and the Tutors have a little bit of a crossover appeal to a certain type of audience.

  Stylish sort of like modernized version of like a period piece. Totally. Modern cont like contemporary music. That's what I've always loved. A little bit of palace intrigue. Yeah. Lots of chess pieces moving, lots of conversations in dark rooms. A lot of death, a lot of horniness. A lot of death, a lot of horniness.

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  very first episode of Peaky Blinders is set at the end of World War One. The last episode of season six concludes during the end of the Prohibition era in the United States, which is around nineteen thirty-three. And now the story continues with the Peaky Blinders film, The Immortal Man, which is set at the beginning of World War Two. Okay. Yeah. Are we ready to dive into this thing? Let's do it.

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  During World War II, crime boss Tommy Shelby is pulled out of eC a self-imposed exile, I'll say. Let me revise the log line a bit. When a Nazi-backed counterfeit operation threatens Britain, forcing him to confront both fascist conspiracies and the violent legacy of the Shelby Empire. It was made by a guy called the TV show and the movie are made by a guy, the kind of showrunner and the dude who came up with all the ideas behind it.

  His name is Steven Knight. He is the creator of the original series. He also made A TV show with Tom Hardy called Taboo. Have you seen this show, Benji? I have not seen it. I mean, everything Tom Hardy does is aggressively weird and but it splits. It's it's another period piece.

  It's sort of is ostensibly about British colonialism, but actually a good chunk of the show, and then I think it only lasted for one season, takes place on Vancouver Island, right in our backyard. It's actually sort of a about like I did not realize the the attempted westward expansion to Asia instead of going, you know, east into Asia for the European colonial powers. And you watched the whole show? I watched most of the first season.

  I think there only was one season. it got canceled, didn't it? I think so. Yeah. let's see. He also made or wrote Dirty Pretty Things, which I did see a million years ago. I definitely Audrey Tattoo? Yeah, Audrey Tattoo. It was like two thousand two. I remember seeing it. I remember it not making much of an impression. Somebody gives a somebody sells their kidney in it, I remember. Yeah. I think.

  He also wrote Eastern Promises, which is I loved Eastern Promises. I haven't seen it, man. And I loved History of Violence, which so it was this back-to-back. Vigo Vigo Mortenson being a real bad boy. With Cronenberg. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, Eastern Promises is great. So Steven Knight known for writing crime dramas grounded in real British history. That's kind of his thing. the director of this movie is named Tom Harper.

  And I will tell you right now, I was completely unfamiliar with anything he's done, which includes the BBC miniseries adaptation of War and Peace, which starred Paul Dano. Lily James and Jesse Buckley, among others. I didn't even know this existed. Yeah, and I I love War and Peace.

  Like we've talked about in the past that I listened to the Jeff Buckley album Grace while reading War and Peace. he's also directed a few feature films, including one called Wild Rose in 2018, again with Jesse Buck Buckley in the lead role. And his most recent film, a 2023 Spy spy thriller, starring Gal Godot called Heart of Stone, which was both a massive commercial and critical failure.

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  And considered one of the worst movies of that year. So Harper also directed the final three episodes of the first season of Peaky Blinders. Okay. And I think those first couple seasons were kind of Peaky Blinders at its most stylish. I though kind of came away from having just recently watched five and six. And we were talking about this the other day when we were kind of planning things.

  It's like the without starting to already spoil the movie, it's just like doesn't feel like is cinematically grand. It's weird that like basically, you know, Knight gets his chance. He goes from starting like This is a BBTC two series. He basically kind of levels up as his this IP that he created gets more and more popular. Yeah. And then he finally gets a crack at the big screen and it's just kind of drab. Yeah. I don't know, but I'm with you.

  I feel like that the artistry that I can recall from the first two seasons was really impressive. And I looked at some of the creators behind it. It was shot by a guy named George Steele and Ben Wilson. They both got credit on it, even though it looked like Ben Wilson mostly did second unit. Steele has worked on some TV movies, stuff that we would recognize a little bit of.

  And then Wilson has been a camera operator on a lot of big TV shows, including Game of Thrones, and he was also the steady cam operator on Andor. So he's clearly got a lot of ability and experience. But I agree with you and I can't wait. We'll we'll flesh out some details about what we're talking about and why this didn't quite feel as impressive from an artistic standpoint.

  But in terms of also the settings though, I think Part of the drabness just comes from like sp the movie spends so much time in Birmingham and Liverpool and just like the gritty industrial butthole of England, basically. Yeah, totally. It's like it's there's no opportunity for anything but Brown. That's a bummer. Yeah. Kellyan Murphy obviously returns as Tommy Shelby. We wouldn't have a show or a movie without him.

  Right. he also serves as a producer. And you want to talk a little bit about some of the key casts from it? There are some original cast members from the TV show reprising their roles, like Sophie Rundle as Ada, Ned Denehy is Charlie.

  So like two two of Tommy's most sort of loyal henchmen over the years. we're gonna talk about most almost everybody dies in Peaky Blinders, but one of the happiest things for me is seeing like people like Ned Denih is Charlie, a guy named Packy Lee who played Johnny Dogs, which is maybe my favorite supporting character, one of my favorite supporting characters in TV, and just it certainly one of the the

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  sort of the spiritual heart of the show. And he does a lot of the best work in this movie too. Yeah. So I don't remember him from the TV show because I'm sure he wasn't in seasons one and two. He gets like more and more important. He's like sort of one of those background characters that kind of comes in as like almost comic relief and as a moral foil later on. Don't forget our GOAT Stephen Graham.

  So Steven Graham, who I will I live and die for my man Hayden he plays Hayden Stagg, another character that sort of shows up at the end of the series, like basically a warehouse boss from Liverpool. Labor guy. Labor guy. There are three massively major new characters in this movie, starting with Barry Keugan. I guess he pronounces his name Keogen. I went and looked that up. Okay. Interesting. Keogan. I mean that makes sense.

  As Duke Shelby, the son of Tommy, Rebecca Ferguson as Kaulo. We'll get all into these characters as we go along. And Tim Roth plays a character called John Beckett. It was filmed on location in Birmingham in 2024. You know, the production notes talk about how it's a much larger scale production, but it to me it didn't really feel that much larger in terms of like the setting and stuff.

  So it's like you I was shocked to not find that this I thought this was on a studio line. Yeah. Interesting. So they sh they shot obviously in Birmingham, but they also shot in Liverpool and the canal sequences, which again, like canal sequences are happening throughout the entire show because that's one of the things. Mm-hmm.

  Those must have been filmed on location in Wrexham and You know, which is why all Rexum was very popular right now because of the Ryan Reynolds buying the soccer team. But like I didn't it wasn't like, wow, if finally they're in a can a real canal and not a canal on a sound stage. Cause I kind of assumed they were doing, like you said, like all in sound stages.

  If the production budget was bigger, I don't know what that bought them really, you know? Yeah. At the risk of stepping on some of our notes about moments from this movie, it feels pretty wasted that they shot all this stuff on location because it Definitely didn't feel like it. And I have some some specific ideas of when that comes up where I'm just kind of like, huh, underwhelmed. But before that, let's take a quick break.

  When we get back, we're going to talk all about moments from the movie and it's going to be filled with spoilers from here out.

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  All right, let's get into the moments from Peaky Blinders, the Immortal Man. I'm gonna do that every time. spoiler warning. The immortal man, isn't it? Yeah. Do not proceed if you don't want this movie to be spoiled for you. We're gonna talk about every single detail from it. Speaking of spoilers, quite the flex by Netflix. I think Luke, you missed the first couple maybe 75, 80 seconds of this movie. Yeah. It started with a spoiler warning.

  I think it was from Killian Murphy. I'm trying to remember. Wait, what? Yeah. How does this work? I swear it was either a title on screen or maybe I just fabricated and projected that it happened. I could have sworn there was like Killian Murphy said something kind of like by order the Peaky Blinders, don't spoil this movie. Very, very funny because Netflix has been so cagey about theatrical release windows, of course.

  So it's very funny to have him be like, Hey, shut up about this movie when you go home tonight after watching it. Don't don't talk about what happens in this movie. Yeah, it's really weird. So like the Netflix version of like the Tom Cruise Top Gun map. Yes. Yes. Except like rather than thank you for coming to the Save the cinema. Yeah, don't spoil the fucking cinema.

  But don't spoil the cinema for the rest of the people who are gonna watch it on on their phones. Yes. Anyways, at the very beginning of the movie, we're in Birmingham, England. It's the start of World War Two. Britain's in the middle of being bombed by Germany. The economy of England is fucked. And we find out about this because there's some on-screen descriptions of things that are happening.

  The Peaky Blinders and Clan Shelby have fallen into total disarray. Meanwhile, Thomas Shelby, Tommy, played by Killian Murphy, has been living in, as Luke described earlier, a kind of self-imposed exile. He's trying to leave behind his violent legacy as head of the Peaky Blinders, and he's writing a novel. But when The war and these new criminal forces threaten both Britain and the Shelby family.

  Tommy is forced back into the world to try he that he tried to escape. And what happens right at the beginning, and you missed portions of this, there's some titles on screen, but you can see that you're in I forget the name of the concentration camp, but it's a concentration camp in Germany. This is all real. There's some titles on screen that introduce this this story of something that actually happened in 1940.

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  by Nazi Germany called Operation Bernhard. This is where the Nazis were gonna try to ruin the economy of England by flooding it with a bunch of counterfeit money that was being printed and created in these concentration camps throughout Germany. the real life sales manager character that takes on there's different stages of this operation, Operation Bernhardt.

  And I think the kind of second and third stage of it was which Is borne out in this movie was the idea of taking a lot of this counterfeit money and putting it put yeah and putting it in the hands of organized crime. Organized crime, exactly. So the Peaky Blinders makes a ton of sense. This real life sales manager character who ran this whole operation, that phase of the operation is a real guy named Friedrich Schwend.

  That's me attempting to pronounce the German name. But Steven Knight instead made this character an English trader and a member of the British Union of Fascists. And named him after a real life dude named John Beckett. Interesting. And I immediately was like, I this is just from research. I would have not known any of this from watching the movie, but this is what I found out later. Anyway.

  Well, and you know, there were lots of British collaborators, and like the final two seasons of the show are kind of like the lead up, like the basically the the attempted like nazification of Britain based on the other real life character, basically like the Hitler, the the guy who wanted to be the Hitler of Britain, Oswald Mosley. But I think here's where it's like it's fascinating with like a historical drama.

  Like you can play fast and loose with some of the rules, but like Oswald Mosley, like right at the beginning of the war. So before this movie even starts, just gets arrested and the British Union of Fascists was like basically forced underground. And Mosley spent like basically the entire first four years of the war in jail. So like you can't like the primary antagonist of the last two seasons and basically the only guy.

  Who's on Tommy Shelby's bad side, who's who survives, Oswald and Mosley, basically gets escorted out of, you know, offstage right by the British government in real life. So like Mosley maybe would have been a character in this, if not for history. So okay. So this was their way of creating some continuity from the TV show to the movie. So it feels like, yeah, like we need another British pull of thread.

  We don't want this we don't want it to look like it's a German guy who came over. We want this to be about like homegrown British fascism, is kind of what it felt like to me. Like that's

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  the the character that Roth is that's like the archetype that Roth is meant to play. Well, maybe 75 seconds into the movie, the Nazis bomb the Birmingham Small Arms Factory, which is at the kind of the industrial heart of Peaky Blinders territory.

  And they I mean they do this weird thing where they introduce a character, her name's Agnes, and I'm kind of like, this must be part of the Peaky Blinders network or somebody's family member or something. And then it's a total misdirect because then the factory that she's clocking in to go work at gets bombed. So she's did they did any of the characters mention Agnes dying later on? I don't think they did.

  This is one of the things that feels so weird to me. Is she even 'cause there's a bunch of speculation on the internet about like, there's a new Shelby. Who knows who it's gonna be? It might have been Duke's. Like there's like I read it, people are like, is this Duke's wife or whatever? There's a possibility I missed it. Interesting. Okay. So You know, as this as the war is raging, Tommy Shelby is actually living kind of a peaceful existence.

  He's like literally put himself out to pasture along with my man, my main man, Johnny Dogs, and Charlie, two of my favorite characters in the show. They're basically what they've always been to him, sort of like hi they're his sort of industrial assistance. Like Johnny Dogs is taking care of stuff, and so is Charlie around the place.

  And Tommy's just focused on reflecting on his past, still haunted by the visions of his daughter Ruby, who died in season six. Of tuberculosis, which is also what what made Tommy think he was dying in season six was a tuberculoma, basically a tuberculosis tumor. He's cut himself off for the whole gang. Again, Charlie's there, Johnny Dogs are there, but Johnny Dogs is there, but other than that, like he's surviving in isolation.

  I just have to say here, and sorry to ruin the suspense. Johnny Dogs survives this movie, and it's like the best choice Steven Knight's ever made. That's my one of my favorite characters of the last maybe 15 years of television or cinema. He's just such a sweet, innocent, weird soul. It's like the family dog, you know, in a movie, like seeing the family dog run up at the very end. Like, and his name's Johnny Dogs too.

  So it's just a he's kind of the part. He's more or less the Sancho Panza to Yeah. Yeah. Cause he's kind of Tommy Shelby's Don Quixote. Yeah. But then the quiet life ends when a mysterious woman named Kaolo, played by Rebecca Ferguson, the the goddess,

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  breaks into his home and reveals she's the twin sister of Zelda, who is I don't remember any of this, not even from the recap. Because because Zelda does not exist on screen in the universe. okay. It's in sh by the time Duke Shell becomes so this is Tommy's illegitimate son shows up, I think in season six, but it might have been like the end of season five. That's what I read. I read that it was just season six. Yeah, yeah.

  This is all like these are all new characters from the final season, and Zelda we never actually see. wow. Okay. Well, I guess if you've seen the trailer for this movie, you do realize that Barry Keoghan's in it. Totally. So I guess it does if you've seen the trailer, which if you haven't, it might be a little bit more confusing, but you can kind of get the sense because she's there. Yeah.

  As has one specific function in that scene, which is to do what? Yeah. So just yeah, basically warning him that like Duke has gone off the gone off the path. Apparently though, like there's a little bit of a retconning where it seems like in order to make the movie work, Like Tommy had like explicitly elevated expli explicitly elevated Duke to basically lead the Peaky Blinders side.

  He in season six he talks a lot about there's a light side and a dark side and like I need my like I basically need my non traveler son to run the light side of the business. I don't even think that that son appears in this movie. And then the dark side is like I basically need another traveler Shelby to run the dark side of my business. that's like the intent, but it never explicitly happens on screen.

  So the parts of his life that have some propriety, the fact that he's involved with the British government a little bit, he's trying to do some things a little bit little bit more above board, but then all the nasty business he'll give to Duke, his illegitimate son. Yeah. So the legitimate part of the business goes to his legitimate son, the illegitimate part of the business goes to Duke.

  And then Tommy's sister, Ada, which is a really Key character from the TV show visits him and And she's taken again, like she was always like the least comfortable sister with the mob stuff. And she's now ascended and taken his place in parliament. So like she's basically the light side of the Shelby family. So basically, like Ada visits him and he's like in a foul mood about all this stuff.

  They're basically talking about what his responsibility might be to this kid and to the family and whatever. And he says, and I think this is like him being pretty honest with himself, is like I was never a father.

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  I was a form of government. And then of course this has a double meaning because he's like renounced his parliament ship. Like there's a sense of Yeah, he says and he says I I never wanted anything, I don't want anything to do with the government. Yeah, he's I w I'm no I no longer believe in government. There you go. That line happens so early, and it's one of the first times I'm going, man, Steven Knight can write some zingers. Dude, he can.

  There are some there are some very good lines and very good line deliveries in this movie. And in terms of that, just like really Ru like the the kind of dialogue where you're like, God, I wish I was as smart as this character on screen. Like he does that kind of for every character. He's really good. Totally agree. All right. Back in Birmingham, the situation has dramatically changed since the things that happened in the show.

  We are introduced finally at long last to Duke Shelby, played by Barry Keegan. He's leading the Peaky Blinders. He sees the opportunity with this small arms factory exploding. To steal all the guns for the Peaky Blinders. And the way that he's introduced, I would describe as like punk rock soundtrack. It's got an MCU kind of a vibe, the way that the he's the blocking, the way that the camera's moving around him. It's not fully revealing him.

  He's set up to be a very big figure, the way that this the scene is built. The local cops are there and they're basically trying to keep the Peaky Blinders from stealing all these guns, but you can quickly tell that there are very few of these cops that haven't been corrupted by the Peaky Blinders because the way that Duke is posturing, he's not even remotely scared of these kind of Barney Fife cops that are like, hey, get out of here.

  He even at one point says, there's no problem here. We are volunteer special constables. And the way that Barry Keegan says it, you're just kind of like, wow, he looks a little bit. He's kind of acting a little bit like Tommy in the first couple seasons, right? Well I think that's the intent.

  Because one of the things that I think I think Ada says right before This scene cuts to is basically saying, like, he's you gave him the power you you gave him the peaky blinders and he's running the peaky blinders like more ruthlessly than you ever did.

  You thought you were sort of forsaking your legacy or maybe getting rid of your violent legacy by taking yourself away from the family, but what you really did was just cause a vacuum that now your son is filling in an even more terrible way than you did. Yeah. And if that would have paid off a little bit more like, you know, satisfyingly, like that could have been a

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  Pretty interesting plot. It's got this kind of a feeling. So he picks on the cop that is saying you can't do this. He beats him up a little bit, stands over him with a cane that is just there as a ornamental something that he could beat people up with. Got a little kingpin vibe, but it's Barry Keagan, so it's kind of funny. Yeah. He's like a very scrappy, wiry little dude. Yep.

  This was shot on location, presumably in Birmingham, because lots of this was shot in or around Birmingham, but it doesn't look like it. Because there's this moment this the where the vehicles are staged, it's this kind of intersection near this factory that had exploded. Yeah. And the number of extras, the positioning of the characters and the props and the vehicles and stuff. And then you see this this street in the background.

  And I just I took a note about this a couple of times. Interesting. The matte backgrounds look so chintzy. Yeah. They stand out Scooby-Doo style. It's kind of like, there's where the painting is. You can almost see the seams in it. Wow. I just thought it's chints. And I couldn't help but feel like I wrote down this is like history channel gangs of New York. Oof.

  So I didn't pick up on that, but yeah, I did not once get a sense that like shooting on location made this a more grand production at all. I exactly. I think this is the first really good example of that. Duke's aunt and Tommy's sister, Ada, who we've talked about, the MP. She shows up with flowers after the dust settles on this theft that's been borne out by the Peaky Blinders led by Duke. She's got some flowers, she sets them down.

  She's like, again, back to the whole propriety side of things. She's an MP. She took over that side of the business, the Shelby family, right? and she even has this great line where she says, they want Tommy, but they've got me because the public is there and this is a this is something that's being photographed. she's out there trying to do good she's doing good or at least trying to.

  She's also quite politically involved with investigating fascist activities and that's established. And again, I would say this is the second time where I'm like, Wow, every transition from scene to scene, the scene building is punctuated so loudly by this very metal soundtrack.

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  This is also the point in the story in the movie where we get to meet this new antagonist for the Shelby family. It's Tim Roth playing the role of John Beckett, who we described very briefly at start. he's this kind of powerful, very mysterious figure. He's this guy who's the the sort of the salesman who's out on the road trying to bring all this counterfeit money into the the British economy to bankrupt them and to ruin the economy.

  He's looking for help from The Peaky Blinders specifically to launder all this money and he's got his eyes on the Shelby family. He comes in and even says something like Berlin wanted your father, but I've I've got you, basically. And you could and and Duke has this moment where he tries to put on his big boy pants and he's like, I'm the boss now. And it's just like no one believes this. Yeah, it doesn't really it he doesn't sell it very well.

  So Beckett is successful in recruiting him. He's like, I'm in more or less. And then back at the Shelby estate, Tommy is still sulking. He's still writing his book. Kaolo, the character played by Rebecca Ferguson, is seducing Tommy. I would say both sexually and politically. She's got a couple angles she's working on. She says to him at one point, and this is this is what I love about watching movies with you, my man.

  She says, we need to communicate without words. And there's like this kind of quiet moment in the theater. And there's like a 20, dude, like 25 people watching this movie with us at our small movie theater on a Monday at 4:45 p.m. And Luke says this loudly enough for me to hear. Let's smash. So they they get it on because Luke says let's smash. And so they they do by order of the Peaky Blinders. I don't know. This whole thing was very clunky.

  And she's like, Was it good? And Tommy says, Maybe. I don't know. I think it was supposed to be playoff as flirtatious. And I felt like this was an odd scene with two actors that didn't want to have on-screen sex. I don't know. It didn't really did you were you picking up the vibes? I didn't feel a chemistry between these two performers. I think it I it just it felt so It felt unremarkable to me.

  So I didn't even I neither bumped nor like was You got your one-liner out. And so you were like, I've done my part. Yeah, totally. You you you amused the movie theater we watched this with. Back in Birmingham, Ada is hot off the the trails of figuring out who stole all these guns. She confronts Barry, aka Duke, at a pig farm. She tries to warn him away from the path that he's on. She's gonna turn him in for stealing the guns. That seems relaxed.

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  Real obvious. You know, she also can gives him a hard time about gives the Duke character Ada does a hard time about stealing these pigs. yeah. Which was kind of funny. And I wrote down this is real story. I wrote down Chekhov's pigs question mark, guy Richie question mark, snatch question mark. We will come back to that. and that was exactly what I was thinking in those moments. good, good, good.

  I took a note at about the same time because I don't think pigs. Yeah, I don't think Steven Knight hid the evidence very much that that might be what he's up to. Totally. Beckett then reconnects with Duke, and he has this idea. He's gonna give him this kind of hazing ritual to prove that he's loyal to this idea of of doing this counterfeit money scheme.

  So he brings with him to this meeting that they have this character named Virgil, who's like a a blabbermouth and a member of the British Fascist League. And it turns out he's been talking openly about the operation with his mistress. So Tim Roth in a in an affect I would describe, I'm hearing almost the coward Robert Ford character from Assassination Assassination of Jesse James with the Casey Affleck. interesting.

  Because his voice is real soft spoken. Because I was gonna ask you like what even accent is he trying to do? Yeah. I couldn't even really pick out like is he he's not doing liver puddly and he's not really doing Mancunian, he's not doing certainly not doing Cockney, but he's also not doing like aristocratic Lord's. British. It's very English. Very peculiar. I couldn't really pick it out. Yeah. Yeah. But it's it's very affected. Yeah.

  And I'd say effective. I think that Tim Roth is he's got this really interesting menace to him with this Beckett character. Yeah. So he basically is like, hey, this dude is not loyal. He's he's a blabbermouth. And before anything happens, like Duke doesn't hes hesitate, pulls out his gun, shoots this guy in the head, and Tim Roth like belts out. Give him another one, even though he's just shot him right in the head. I think he shot him twice.

  Yeah. It's at this point the Beckett character, Tim Roth, really leans into his villainy and he starts to come across as quite sadistic and menacing. He starts to quote passages from the Bible. Yeah. One in particular where he's like, We're gonna go, we're gonna go fall deeper and deeper into the blood until you have to swim out of it. And convincing. I'm like, this guy's pretty gross. there is a problem though, Luke, and here's the problem.

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  He kills this guy. Duke does. Yeah. Empties this semi-automatic pistol into this guy to prove to Tim Roth that he didn't just give him another one. He gave him all all the ones. Yeah, yeah. Right. And then he's like, I have to find you have to find a way to get rid of this body. So I'm like, Chekhov's pigs question mark. Yeah. Yep. So now it's time to talk about what I'm calling six degrees of guy Richie. Yes, it's true. Pigs.

  The movie Snatch, if you remember the 2000 movie from Guy Ritchie called Snatch. Boy do I ever. Dude, there's a character named Bricktop who is this East London, incredibly thick cockney. He wears these hairy carry glasses. And just has the biggest teeth that's ever been put to film, if I remember correctly. Yeah. And he and he really, the actor Alan Ford, who plays the part. Yeah. He's just constantly doing the gummy thing with his teeth.

  It's super gross stuff. And at one point in that movie, they have to get rid of a dead body. You're always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together. Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You've gotta starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped up body will look like curry to a piss head.

  And then of course, who's in that movie, Six Degrees of Guy Ritchie? Yep. Stephen Graham. And also though, for si this my six degrees of the traveler culture of you know Britain, that's also the fur my first experience with the existence of this group of people that Tommy Shelby is a part of was Brad Pitt's character in Snatch. The Romani characters, aka the Pikies and Which Pikey's probably worse than saying gypsy Luke. So what are we doing here?

  Right. And Stephen Graham's character's name? Tommy. Tommy. Yeah. So there's this great scene where in that in that movie where you're It's like the worst moment for the character Tommy played by Steven Graham. and it's because they've they're in trouble with Bricktop. Yeah. And he realizes because of the Brad Pitt character, knocked out their boxer that they were supposed to go get to fix a fight on behalf of Bricktop. Yeah.

  And the moment that Brad Pitt knocks out this dude and hurts him, the Stephen Graham character, this is great moment. Golden Brown texture like sun. You the song? yeah. The Stranglers? Yeah.

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  is praying. And if he isn't, he fucking should be.

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  Tommy ends up in trouble with this gangster and all this stuff goes goes crazy. Bricktop is helping these guys get rid of a dead body. And he's like, You gotta cut the body into pieces. You feed them to the pigs. You have to starve the pigs first. Then they'll go through bone like butter. That's right. Anyway, yeah, that's a great lot.

  Yeah. when that's why like I've always that that was kind of what made me think like this this show has always felt to me like what if Guy Ritchie did Boardwalk Empire. You're kind of getting me horny to imagine this show in the hands of in this world building in the hands of Guy Ritchie. Guy Ritchie. I'd I would much more fuck with it. I'm not gonna lie. Okay. Back to what's happening with Kaolo and Tommy. Talk to us, Luke.

  Kaolo has seduced Tommy sexually and finally succeeds in seducing him politically. Yeah. you couldn't save Arthur, you couldn't save Ruby, but you can save your son. so Tommy obviously knows about Duke. He doesn't know how bad Duke's gotten. Now knows about Beckett. He also confesses to her at this point that about Arthur's death, and she sa and he says at this point that it was an accident. Right. That Arthur was gacked out on opium.

  This is where it's revealed. This is w I think this is so sloppy how they handle this. But she just kinda he just reveals in a conversation with his character, Kaolo, that he killed Arthur and that it was because Arthur was super gacked out. They were both He was fucked up on booze. Arthur was fucked up on opium or something. Which is like and was an accident. This is probably the single biggest retcon of the series. Yes.

  And it's like, why did it even need to happen? Because Arthur's death appears off screen. It does not happen in the series. It doesn't happen in the movie. Yeah. Like, you know, his brother was basically on the way out of this world by the end of the series. I don't even know what this gets us. Yeah. Having Tommy be the one who actually killed him. Yeah. And I so the other thing that happens at this point is.

  Somehow Kaolo convinces politically, she she seduces Tommy politically to go into Birmingham and reassert himself and the life of the Peaky Blinders and like take on Duke, ostensibly, right? and I I felt like I did I didn't quite understand what she had said that had convinced him to do so, but we get the obligatory montage at this point. It's pretty cool shit. He throws on his suit, he gets all cleaned up.

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  Just that's the some of the sexiest stuff in the sh in the show, too. It's it's it's very sexy. Killian Murphy just wears a suit like very few people do, like can. And he just like always looks good. Cleans up well. And you he's in this kind of what you think is a formerly quite lavish estate that he's living on that's just gone into a state of disrepair and neglect. And your guy Johnny has a great line.

  They're getting ready to get in the car to to go into Birmingham. If Tommy's the Holy Ghost and Duke is his son, then I will need the fucking revolver. It's great. but they're so they're off to find Duke and I I just asked myself why. I didn't I didn't know what Kahlo had done to get him invested in in going into Birmingham.

  I think because like the the travelers are supposed to be such a magical people or in like or like in tune with the other world, the veil between worlds, the living and dead. There's also a thing that wasn't super convincing where like she's saying that like Zelda, her dead sister, who's Duke's mom, basically inhabits her body for a chunk of that whole like seduction process.

  And it's almost like Tommy's actually sleeping with Zelda through that scene was so eerie and weird. I took I d I started to take notes on it, but I don't know. Something there's gonna be people listen to this and they're gonna be like, You're skipping all this great stuff about the lore or whatever. I'm just gonna be like, look, it it I it missed me entirely.

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  So Duke gets rid of the body. Beckett returns with another test of Duke's loyalty to the operation and to Beckett himself. Ada is gonna turn Duke in for the robbery. So that's why like she's gonna she's gonna, you know, turn him into the authorities and Beckett tells Duke, now you gotta you gotta do your next your next hit has to be your aunt. You gotta go kill Ada. You can kind of see it coming. Yeah. Yeah.

  And he has this great moment where he says to Duke, and it The the one part of this piece that I didn't really buy is how quickly they form some weird like father-son bond, at least on the Beckett side of things. He's like he's expresses shame for his own son. This is why it feels like this should have this was like the pacing of this is like trying to compress a six episode season into two hours. That's exactly what it felt like.

  Cause he's telling Duke, he's like, My son writes poetry, and he finds that emasculating. And that also seems like He knows that Tommy's writing a book and it's meant to be a dig that stings Duke. Yeah. And he says to Duke, If you were my son, I would cherish you. Make me proud. And this is after he's telling him to go kill his aunt. Yeah. Exactly. And his dad's sister. It's really, really odd.

  So Duke agrees to it and And there's this, so at the end of the montage, there's this sort of like a nice back and forth. Like Duke is on his way to basically kill his aunt while she's on her way to the police station. Yeah. And Tommy's Tommy's on his way to Birmingham. Yeah. So they're like driving and it's like Johnny Dogs is driving, Tommy's in the passenger seat.

  It's like basically it's like who's gonna get there in time is what we think is happening. But what's actually happening is the Ada stuff is happening well before Tommy and Johnny Dogs are ever gonna get to her. And Duke is having his own crisis of conscience. So as Duke is like running up, he sits he likes he's trailing her. It's actually pretty well shot through these like like this this is my favorite part of the movie.

  It's it's a great tra it's a sort of like a tracking shot where you can see sort of Ada disappearing around a corner of a st of the street, and then Duke is cutting through a like a factory of some sort. And it's like really deeply symbolic of like Ada was always the sort of

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  The the black sheep of the family, insofar as she was like trying to live a normal life. And if you have that six seasons of emotional investment totally and Ada's been there since the first season, totally. This is really fucked up. And so you're we we lose Ada as we follow Duke, and then we cut and Duke goes up some stairs and then down some stairs, and all of a sudden he's right behind her. Like he knows of the shortcuts of all this this town.

  Yeah. He he actually c ends up ahead of her, actually. I'm sorry about that. He ends up ahead of her and he like ducks into one of the red phone booths to like the classic British red phone booth. Yeah. And he's like ready. And then he just like starts almost like dry heaving. He's like, he just he's not gonna be able to do it. And you know he's not gonna be able to do it.

  Well, and you've got this kind of classical melodramatic triangle, a hero, a damsel in distress, and the villain, right? And it's like they're casting the way that this is intercut that. Tommy's going to be the hero, but you kinda get the sense that he's not going to get there in time. It's it's cut in a way that I think is well, first of all, I just think this entire section is so propulsive. It's great. I am fucking all in on these moments.

  PK blinders feels like to me, it's what it should feel like. And it was there was just not enough of it in the movie. Totally. so yeah, like, but and also it does this other thing that I think is that Steven Knight like sometimes Steven Knight will like ramp up the drama of like making the killing really gory or like really drawing it out. No.

  Here, Barry Keegan's like basically trying to warn her because as he runs back out, now Ada's well ahead of him because he's been dry heaving in a phone booth. She's almost to the police station, and you see the car. Of Tim Roth pull up, which now it be it becomes at this point a signature of his. He's got this vehicle that has bullet holes in it. Yep. Do they establish where the bullet holes came from? Or is that just part of his shtick?

  Duke shoots that's the car Duke shoots in like the prior scene. He just randomly shoots into a car and it wasn't even clear why he was shooting into the car. It turns out to be Tim Roth's car. Apparently. Okay. Yeah. But it's like well, it's right before heets Tim Roth. Okay, sure. But anyways. So then Tim Roth gets out and starts to point the gun.

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  And then it cuts back to Tommy and Johnny Dogs. You're like, how close are Tommy and Johnny Dogs? no, they're still on that country road. Yeah. And all of a sudden, pretty unceremoniously, yeah, Ada gets a bullet in the head and a couple in the heart. Yeah, it's punctual, it's procedural. It is just like it's super cutthroat and cold. For Tim Roth, it's nothing. Yeah. And then he says something to him, doesn't he?

  He says, I knew you couldn't do it or something. He says he basically says, You've disappointed me. he says you disappointed. Which is where it's like we've had this sort of like I he's a stranger and now he's a father figure and now he's like he's like Ashamed. He's abandoned his boy in the space of like five minutes of the movie, right? Or like ten minutes of the movie.

  Which is that is kind of a flaw in the way that this all plays out, to be honest with you. But the filmmaking is quite exquisite, dude. I wrote down like this is a graphic novel come to life. Am I falling for this thing? Because I wasn't I I was like amused and fairly entertained by the movie at this point and like some of the lines, some of the performances and but this is propulsive, just beautiful filmmaking.

  Very speaking of graphic novels, Alan Moore, right? Didn't he write Road to Perdition? Yeah. very Road to Perdition vibes. he and then Tommy, they cut to Tommy and he's on that back road and yeah, he gets that sort of Romani vision. Yep.

  Well and his and and this is one of those moments where like one of the most beautiful things I think about the the twin sides of Tommy Shelby is like his his traveler side, his Romani side is always in these like Hilly, country, green, verdant fields of Britain, and then the sort of gangster side of him is in Birmingham.

  This is one of the few moments in the film that sort of calls back all of that visual imagery that was so rich throughout the series because he's now on the road and Ada, the ghost of Ada, is there in front of him. Like they stop the car and there she is. Like it's he knows And it's beautiful. It's gorgeous. It's beautiful. And by the way, it's Max Allen Collins who wrote Road to Perdition. Don't come at me, people who are graphic novel fans.

  Yeah, this part's really, really beautiful. Yep. So Tommy So Tommy pursues Duke, but I want to ask you a question, why? I don't remember. Does he find out? How does he find out what happened? Well, I mean, it's I think the the idea is like he knows Ada died because she appeared to him in a vision as a ghost. okay. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, Luke. I forgot that the Romani, they see things. Okay, yeah. So he's he's he's in town.

  He's like, I gotta find, I gotta find Duke. Yeah, I think so. So where does he go? So he goes to the

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  The garrison, the garrison pub, right? This is like a common fixture of all the peaky buttons. Not only that, it's also a symbol of the way sort of the more legitimate and still vice part of their empire grew. Because it starts off, it's the pub they buy, I think, at the beginning of the first season, but it also be at some point becomes a distillery. It's the Shelby brothers distillery. It's all these different things.

  It's a symbol of the growth of their empire. But now, of course, it's fallen to like Duke just gets control over it and it's sort of fallen on hard times, or it's just not as much of an icon as it was. Tommy pursues him starting at the the garrison. And in the garrison, there are all these GIs, you know, kind of carousing.

  There's a lead GI who looks to me a lot like Leo Woodall, although it is not Leo Woodall. it would have been a tri profound waste of Leo Woodall's talent. That would have been some fucking weird stunt casting. But I mean, this is also like stunt casting is one of the things that Piki Blinders has done well over the years.

  Yeah. so basically it's This is the first sense that we get that like Tommy does still have some of his edge because he's basically trying to clear out this bar. He wants these, you know, soldiers to get out. He's got to find his son. He's got to get to work. Well, I like the way that Steven Knight played this. He's still got some of his Riz and his reputation and all that stuff. Yeah. But not with everybody.

  And certainly certainly not with the soldiers. Again, because like these GIs, they might have come from all parts of Britain. Who knows where these guys came from? They're not Birmingham lads. And if you've seen this in a movie. a hundred times, you've seen it a million times, and it's always satisfying. It's the classic, who the fuck is this guy? Yep. And so Tommy gets to flex.

  And I do think like this is a moment where like it in true Peaky Blinders fashion, it's not like flex by beating the crap out of him, not flex by pointing a gun in his face, which is what a lesser like a a less lesser man would do, yeah. He pulls out a grenade, dude, pops the clip and stuffs it down the shoulders the soldier's shirt, and the soldier goes, runs out, boom. Yeah. Really great moment. It is really good.

  And I I didn't even stop to ask myself questions about why the fuck did this guy run out of the pub? Why didn't he just take it and throw it? His first thought of his last six seconds on planet Earth are I'm gonna save my buddies. I don't think that's what you would do, dude. It's so funny. so funny. It's so great. It's a great scene though. I mean, again, if you s that's just such a trope, but it's always satisfying. It's like

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  You don't know who I am? Fuck you, that's who I am. Yeah. Yeah. And so like Tommy doesn't find Duke at the pub, but he does find so Duke's little makeshift pig farm is actually like a bombed-out building, right? It's like it's got brick walls on all sides and no it looks like the yeah. It's a it's a warehouse where the roof's basically been blown off, probably by munitions or something.

  He he confronts Duke and they roll around fighting in the mud until Duke basically gets him to cough up information about Beckett's operation and basically Kind of start the the healing process of father and son, I would say. Yes. And I remember thinking to myself, there's a version of this storytelling which would have been about what happens when the peaky planners are run by a much worse version of Tommy. Yeah.

  Which is effectively what Duke becomes. He's like a a microwaved and really demonic mutant version of Tommy. But only for 10 minutes. But only for 10 minutes. That's only the that's the amount of time this film has to this transformation. Yeah. But you can kind of tell that the ultimate heavy for a bad guy in this is going to be the Tim Roth character.

  So I was like, he's gonna recruit, I could I could tell he's gonna try to recruit Duke to be good. And I'm like, am I gonna fall for it? And this is kind of where that starts to play out. And that's the first glimpse of it is they have this big mud wrestling scene around the pigs. There is a very funny moment at the end of their little wrestling match where they're they're punching each other and rolling around in mud.

  It's really convincing, gross mud shit too, by the way. man. This this like Bar Barry Keegan is completely fucking swamped with mud. Yeah. No, there's some good mud scenes that's a good mud six. Like, no, like Steven Knight might be like a Shakespeare of mud. He's a mud fetishist. and then they have this great reveal of a little bit of a medium wide where like you could see a little group of pigs are looking at them.

  It's very, very funny guys doing. Yeah, totally. Tommy seems to get a little bit of satisfaction at this moment that like he's got Duke where he wants him. He's gonna recruit him to like help out now. so at this point in the story, Tommy is set. He's gonna go visit.

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  The St. Elizabeth Mortuary and say goodbye to Ada. But you know that it's going to be a kind of cat and mouse game with Beckett, because of course Beckett's going to expect him there. Tommy says about as much. And he has this scene where he's confessing, he goes to the mortuary and he's confessing some of his sins and talking to the over the dead body of Ada. He's over the body of Ada and says that he killed Arthur and that.

  From this bad will come some good. And he says, I killed him because I wanted to be free of him. That's so interesting because at the end of the season, he's he is he is free of Arthur. And then for some reason he gets retconned and not being free of Arthur, whatever. Why I just have questions. Why did he feel like Steven Knight that is?

  I'm gonna say if he wanted to be free of him, I wrote down that makes two of us because I wanted nothing to do with the Arthur character drove me fucking crazy. Did Steven Knight feel that way? Like what What happened here? It's really odd. I that he retconned the killing of him. Especially having now just finished season six.

  Cause I didn't bump on it when we watched the movie, but when when I went back and watched season six, I'm like, wait, Arthur basically gets taken care of. He's gonna have like a short life, but maybe kind of a happy life, or or an in at least indeterminate life. Like he could have Yeah. We didn't even need to bring Arthur up in this movie. He's sort of taken care of at the the end of season six. So it just it feels like a weird choice.

  I don't know why he does it. But he's so well, I agree, but he's so integral to the sh the show. Yeah, maybe he that for Tommy to not yeah, for Tommy to be like, he's in he's in Paris. Like it's they gotta explain something about him. But I also kind of felt like maybe Steven Knight came around to my way of seeing things, which is like Arthur sucks. He takes the energy out of everything that happens.

  But again, he fills that kind of role that I this is where we just have to talk about it. He is the third, fourth, fifth. thousandth coming of Fredo Corleone. Yeah. I've always taken care of you, Fredo. Taking care of me? You're my kid brother. You take care of me. Did you ever think about that? Did you ever once think about that? This is very Michael Corleone. I have to kill my brother.

  Yep. instead of it being this calculated chess move like it was with Michael in The Godfather, this is very like passion driven. He's like a heat of the moment thing. I've

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  Fucking can't stand you. He has his moment of killing him, whatever. He's like he's like suppressed that urge for s like 36 episodes and then off screen he finally loses loses his patience. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah. We know that this is coming.

  There's gonna be a shootout and it takes place in what I'm calling the parking garage of the mortuary. it's the it's the the loading docks, and there's some horses back there for reasons. and it's it's a really effective set piece. I thought this part kicked ass. So Tim Roth pulls up in his car that's got bullet holes in the door. then there's this great moment where Tom big sten gun like that. A sten, that's what that's called. Yeah.

  With a a side loading clip. Yep. And this this is like where it's like we're a magazine. Yeah. Yeah. A side loading magazine. this is a new era 'cause like this whole this this whole show has been about Tommy guns, basically. You know? Yeah. And they pull out this sten. So it's like we are clearly in the nineteen forties now. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool looking gun. That's what Roth is rocking. Tommy's just got a standard handgun of some variety.

  His trusted pistol. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. And he has this great moment that reminded me of the significance of this specific style of hat in the movie Miller's Crossing. Yeah. It's the most important part of Miller's Crossing. Tommy takes his hat and he sets it down. And it's got it's got this little feeling for me. I read it that way because Miller's Crossing is like maybe my first or second favorite movie of all time.

  Absolutely iconic. they have this great shootout. And then they both run out of ammo, a little reminiscent of John Cusack and Dan Aykroyd at the end of Gross Point Blank when they're both out of ammo and they start giving each other shit. So they start talking back and forth. This is a great, very video game, I would call it kind of a set piece. It feels there's many moments in this movie that felt video gamey to me.

  I'm just gonna say feels a little Grand Theft Auto. I mean, like parts parts of the whole show. That's one of the reasons I kind of like it. Yeah. I will say that like this is a moment also where like Tommy comes. By his pugilism, honestly, and Tim Roth might be a little bit of a pretender.

  Cause Tim Roth is just unloading this clip, and Tommy says something sort of to almost this might almost be a direct quote, but he's like, Stengun has 30 rounds. What are you at? yeah. And then Tim Roth like basically fires off two or three more and he's out. So like Tommy kind of knew what he was doing and still ran out of ammo, but like it was like Roth just kind of got ahead of himself.

  So like this is just another instantiation, I think, of like Tommy is like.

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  Born and bred for this work. And no matter how bad of a guy you are, because Tim Roth has b literally no redeeming qualities. He is just like capital E evil in this movie. Even that like that deep, dark evil can't make you as efficient and effective of a killer as like you know, years in a trench in World War One and then, you know, Tommy's life after. So interesting. That's a great read of it. I think that the whole out of ammo thing plays well.

  That's why it reminded me of Gross Point Blank, cause that's what happens. They both run out of ammo and Dan Acker says, like, Are you empty? And he says, Yeah, you Workers of the world unite. Look at that, empty. Solid every Yeah. So what are you gonna do? You throw that gun at me? No. Greatest movie ever. this particular scene could have been produced by Rockstar at very very, very Grand Theft Auto. But it ends because they're both out of ammo.

  Tim Roth kind of squirrels scampers away. Yeah, totally. He scampers away, gets in his car, drives off, and Tommy jumps on a horse. And we get more bad CGI backgrounds. Like the setting is beautiful. They're on location somewhere in Birmingham, but it just the background, there's a I'm like, you can see it.

  Well it's because like even when you're on vac if when even when you're in you're on location in Birmingham, you might be able to find some of those old factories and stuff, but the rest of the city is gonna be a modern city. So you're gonna have to put some CGI in the background. Yeah. Just didn't do a great job of it.

  I also want to say, like, he gets back on a black horse, and there's another one of those beautiful set pieces where he's like once again, Tommy is climbing onto a jet black horse.

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  Which calls back to his horse from the show called Danger, who dies in like episode in season five. And then this is another thing that kind of gets retconned. Like the show ends with Tommy basically riding away or having a white horse. Like he's like had some sort of transition. And that the the horse he's riding at the end of the show is different than the beginning.

  It's like a not a particularly subtle suggestion that like Tommy has sort of fought his demons, at least to a stalemate, like enough of a stalemate that he's not putting a gun to his head all the time wanting to die. And then so for him to I guess it's like maybe him re-embracing that role of killer to hop back on the black horse for one last ride, maybe. Yeah. But it didn't that's not how it came across to me.

  This is my second favorite section of the movie. I think for all the reasons you're describing, and you're bringing up some things that are helping me kind of put an exclamation point on how I like this section, because there's a distinction between the two of them. Tim Roth and Killian Murphy's characters when they're exchanging unpleasantries and firing guns at each other. Yeah.

  Your description of it aligns with how I was thinking you start to feel like I'm well aware that Tommy Shelby survived six seasons of subterfu subterfuge and probably attempts on his life. And despite all the ghosts and everything else that he's experienced, he's still alive. Yeah. So maybe he is immortal. You know, you start to think about these things and he seems to give no fucks during the scene.

  Whereas Beckett starts to show a little frailty or a little vulnerability. I don't know. There's something about him is just like these two people are not the same. And Tommy's been like Tommy's made of stronger stuff. And I think that is one of the things about like World War One. Like he said a number of times in the final seasons to Arthur, like, We're already dead. We're dead men. Like dead men can't like basically dead men can't feel fear.

  We are we died in those trenches. That's right. And and I think that's so that's kind of returning to him. And the horse evoking that kind of nineteen fourteen nine to nineteen nineteen sort of roots is is really, really good. At this point, I would describe the movie as having set the stage, the chess pieces are in place, Tommy's got Duke on his side. This is one of the weakest scenes in the movie.

  He meets him, I think it's at the garrison, it's somewhere. He meets Duke, pour two he pours two whiskies, yeah, and it's one line in this whole scene.

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  He's like, I'm told you want to kill the man who killed Ada. And Duke says, Yeah, I do. One question, one answer, very weak scene. I'm like, where's the incredulity on the part of Tommy? Yeah. Why is this so easy? Why is this like just like it's so easily earned that he's like, Yeah, cool. I guess we're gonna go into business of trying to avenge Ada when you were willing to kill her? Yeah, like half an hour ago.

  Anyway, so Tommy burns a Romani pyre for Ada. We keep saying Romani.Feels weird, but I'm gonna go with it. Then we get a s we're treated to a slow motion version of Massive Attacks teardrop. This was my favorite needle drop. man, great. This was this was good. Yeah, I liked this. Absolutely. I was all in. Amazing.

  Okay. he gets in touch with his good old pal, Stephen Graham, aka Hayden Stagg, the longtime character from the show who's got the he's got the deep connections to the docs and the laborers. They're hatching this scheme to infiltrate the Nazi counterfeit operation. A guy who's just his got He can do his like the accents within his country pretty well. He does a pretty good liver puddle accent here. cause he's a he's a Liverpool guy.

  And he's just got this Stephen Graham's one of those people that it doesn't matter when he enters a movie, you're just like instantly just this guy's just he's charismatic and interesting, you know, minimally. Yeah. it's quite effortless for that guy. They hatch a scheme to infiltrate the Nazi counterfeit operation, do some good for the world and ideally kill Beckett at the same time.

  And there's a A great line from Tommy that speaks to that, even though it doesn't feel like it makes any sense if I'm being honest. He's like, there's a man I want dead and a weapon that could lose us the war. So he's like, that's why we're gonna go, we're gonna, we're gonna attack the Nazis. I don't know. Yeah.

  I I do think that like we might want to save this for later, but like I do think it's great and it is perfect for the the universe of PK Blinders that it's not the weapon is not the V. to rocket or anything like that. It's money. Counterfeit money.

  Like there's there's a lot between Oswald Mosley and some Boston gangsters in the final seasons where there's like the there are these conversations of about like the currents the currency of Britain isn't actually money. It's blood. So many of you assholes have money because it's like the aristocracy, it's also b you know effectively one of the birthplaces of capitalism. There's wild amounts of money in this country.

  That's not actually the currency that like

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  you know, lubricates the gears, it's blood. But that's also the, you know, the back and forth of like Tommy Shelby. He can always justify the next killing in pursuit of b they call it business, right? You know, I think this is where you would benefit so much from having watched all six seasons before sitting down to watch this movie.

  Because, and this is what I'm getting at, there that's the second time that a one line of dialogue in this movie has to do some extremely heavy lifting. Yeah. To like convince you of why this is all happening. The first was when he says, I'm told you want to kill the man who killed Ada. And Duke is like, Yep, I do. And he's Cool, I'm it, we're all let's do this.

  And the second is this line of there's a man I want dead and a weapon that could lose his war. And Tommy and Hayden Stag are kind of like, Look, I guess we're doing this. Everything feels very underdeveloped, kind of under motivated. And then there's a scene that I have to ask you about, Luke. I bumped on it, I laughed, I thought it was very odd. Tommy is on a boat. He Pulls out a typewriter to keep working on his fucking manuscript.

  And I think there's a line in it where he they they show an insert that it says, I think it's I think it says this, the story's conclusion is up to Duke. Did I invent that? It's something along those lines. Yeah. Okay. And I'm like, it's like this fucking guy pulled up a laptop on the boat ride over to kill the Nazis. But and he's like sitting on the pr he's like sitting at the front of the ship. Very weird.

  And these are these are narrow boats, the kind of they're the basically cargo boats that they take down the canals from like Birmingham to London to Liverpool. Like a lot of that shipping and stuff in Britain was all done with like canals on these. They're called narrow boats. Yeah. But can we talk about the fact that he pulls out a typewriter? No, it's preposterous. So silly. another silly thing.

  Okay, look, I am going to just tell everybody right now. For the rest of this movie, I get f it's Fucking dorky man. Duke discloses the plan to Beckett, but it's obviously not the actual plan. It all feels super rushed. Like, yeah, this is a really transparent trap that's been set by Duke. We have been led to believe, and I believed, I believed until this happened that Beckett was a really shrewd and clever chester. He gets fooled way too easily.

  It's like, is he fucking stupid? So Duke basically comes back and says, like

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  I'm sorry. I'm sorry I messed up. I'll do better next time. Can I still be your son? And Beckett's like, yeah, come on in. Yeah, sure. Great. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Let me show you where everything's at. Kylo goes to work on Duke. She's seducing him in the same way that she was seducing Tommy at the beginning of the movie.

  Again, kind of a thankless, femme fatile role of she's manipulating things behind the scenes to devise this plan to kind of, I'm just gonna say quadruple. I lost count. Quadruple cross Tommy. She hands Duke a bullet with Tommy's name on it. And it's not clear if like she's doing this because the ghost of her sister Zelda wants revenge or the ghost of her sister Zelda wants Tommy to be at peace. Didn't know about any of the stuff, don't care.

  It was some very Shakespearean shit, but hey, even when I read Shakespeare in college, I didn't really like that aspect of it, all the ghost stuff. This is the only use for the Peaky Blinders movie for women is this role. Real it's tough. There isn't anything remotely trustworthy about the character of Kahlo. since the very first frame she entered. but of course that has to be the classic Achilles heel of geniuses and and really powerful men.

  Is there some woman that they just can't get enough of? Yep, yep. the whole operation to kill Beckett and destroy the counterfeit operation just feels again rushed. It's also a bit complicated and I would say a bit unsatisfying. And I'm gonna say this note for you, Luke, because I don't. I we have we have to get to other shit. True. I don't even want to fucking talk about the convoluted bullshit with the boats and all that kind of stuff.

  They're supposed to be pulling up on these boats, the P planters, but the boats are actually a decoy. The important part of the way this whole is set up for the character of Tommy is Tommy's gonna go through these tunnels that have been blown out and dis and abandoned for years. Yeah. And that's him sort of finally going. Back into the trenches, back under he's said it a million times in the series. We were underground.

  And tons of cross-cutting to memories of World War One. Of like, you know, the first bayonet he ever bayoneted into a into a German soldier. And so that is like sort of a ritual cleansing one more, once more into the breach, my friends, sort of thing. We pop up, Steven Graham, thankfully, gets away because he's the only person on these boats, the decoys. The boats are armed with explosives, the boats blow up.

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  Throwing Beckett and his cronies into disarray. Yeah, I would say a a modestly impressive set piece, but nothing like it's really not as good as the shootout you were talking about. No, and not and not satisfying given how rushed and comp overly complicated, but at the same time sort of transparently obvious some of the setup felt like. Yep. I can I just ask you something? Yeah.

  In the final scenes of this Peaky Blanders movie, can we talk about Killian Murphy's wardrobe? He is giving intense Indiana Jones, with the bandana around his neck. He's got the short sleeve white henley. maybe a little Nathan Drake from the Uncharted series. no, totally. Yeah. No, he's he's giving like adventurer. Very, very threw me off, man.

  Well and he there's a there's a bit of a cave-in when he's in the tunnel and then he comes up alive, but like his shirt's all ripped and yeah. He it's like It's a little for for people who love slight Irishmen, it's still it's a little thirst trappy too. Like he's like he's he's sexy and he's dangerous. He's very sexy. Yeah. Yeah. It's at this point I wanted to take control of his character, you know, because it felt like Uncharted 4.

  Yeah. but back to Beckett, what's he doing with our guy Duke? So the the explosion basically helps Duke sort of get away. Cause b when it the explosion happens, Beckett knows that he's been double-crossed and instantly Duke gets away from him after the explosion. And but keep in mind, speaking of seductions, Duke has fully seduced Beckett again because he's pouring a drink and he's treating him like a son again at this point.

  I for reasons we don't quite understand. Yeah, exactly. Well, because he thinks because he was so easily duped that like Duke like coming across his daddy. even has this line where he says, What kind of father abandons his son? Yeah. And he's like doing that weird thing. And it's an unusually weak line from the Beckett character. Because you're like, We're an idiot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Beckett basically just drives straight at Tommy with his car.

  Tommy being just like the steely-eyed killer that he has always been, just drills him between the eyes with his pistol. And then like and then he's about to, he's ready to die. He does the full Jesus pose, the full platoon pose. Why did they do that? Everything. And then it's Duke who grabs him around the midsection. And and also Tim Roth is shooting at him at this time. And so he's Tim R like Killian Murphy has taken two bullets.

  He's re but he's he's taken out Beckett. He's

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  You know, he's he's he's also they've blown up the money at this point too. So Beckett knows his whole game is which by the way, when they blew up the money, it looked like fifty bucks had blown up. It did not look like four hundred and thirty seven million pounds or whatever but seventy five million pounds. Yeah, it looked like fifty bucks blew up. Like I think Netflix spent a lot of money on this movie.

  To be fair, it was at least two reams of Office Depot paper blow They did not use very much monopoly money. They could have just fucking CGI'd that shit. Yeah. Yeah, anyway. so But instead of just like taking his end like he wanted it, Duke sort of saves him. And it leads to this whole thing where basically, Duke like Tommy asks Duke to put a bullet in him. He hugs it out. They hug it out a little. Not convincing, by the way. Yeah.

  And he kinda he's like there, kind of kind of nursing him a little bit. And then just says, Yeah, use the bullet that so Callow had given him a the bullet to like do Tommy in. And this is a thing that you know, appears it's happened in Numerous gangster movies. It's happened like several times in Peaky Blinders. It's a returning recurring motif. What a name on a bullet? What's a recurring? is really? Yeah.

  I've never I don't remember the name of this in the shit I've watched. Yeah. He he actually had like You're saying it's recurring in the T V show, not in just gangster movies in general. both. I've seen I've seen bullets on bullets or names on bullets in other gangster shows. But yeah, but s in this show, yeah, he has when he's considering offing himself at the end of the series, he has a bullet with his name on it. Got it. Yeah.

  They hug it out a little and and Duke does, you know, the thing that Tommy was never able to do. One of the one of the recurring tropes of the Tommy character from season one, episode one, is he's like so traumatized. He's like always putting a gun to his head, like, is this the time I fully finally pull the trigger? And this is it, and it's his son that does it.

  And he says And back to the horse thing, which I now know the significance of the horse thing quite a bit more than I did when I talked to this movie. He says something like, treat me like you would a horse, you know. You gotta do this. Yep. does Duke actually say this line? I wrote this down, but I I I almost don't believe it because it's again, there's a lot of great language and great lines in this. We did it, Dad. We fucking did it.

  Does he say that? I don't know that I took that note. I think he does. Well does he? This is the second time that we have gotten to see Barry Keegan and an injured Killian Murphy working together. It's a

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  Like a wonderful and wonderful performance and a heartbreaking dynamic b between the two of them and Dunkirk. Which you have not seen. I have not seen Dunkirk. You need to see that movie. It's slaps fully. I will say that I struggled with Tommy and Duke's relationship in the Peaky Blinders movie though.

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  The movie then ends with a VO voiceover from Tommy, which I really liked this as an ending soliloquy until I finished season six. And it's still, it's still a pretty good soliloquy. I just think they wrap it up so much better at the end of season six. Well, I think that was what I was gonna, you're leading into the question I was gonna ask you. Like, Luke, you have way more invested in this. You've seen all six seasons and you've seen the movie.

  Yeah. What did you think? I like there were moments of like so it's a bleak. series. It's it's always been bleak from the very beginning. But there was like some panache to it. Just the use of the Nick Cave song, Red Right Hand, which is like a song I've loved since I was a teenager. Yeah. Like that. And they use it in so many different ways.

  And in later seasons, they bring it back with like they do covers of it in in ways that are really effective. They actually did a cover of Red Right Hand here that just seemed sad in one note. Like that happened in this movie. They they bring it back once do you think they just didn't they didn't maybe want to pay for the license? What do you think there? They're getting They're getting Tom York songs for the series.

  No, they had to have been able to. Yeah, it's Netflix. It's Netflix. Train Dreams. They just did this. It's better use of Nick Cave than Train Dreams, in my view, but okay. Yeah, yeah. Fair. Fair. As bleak as it got, it was always fun. Like the yeah, you're right. The Arthur character gets really tough to watch. Yeah.

  But like it's the bleakness was always leavened with this, like the kind of the thrill and the and and also just sort of like. taking a sort of a like a guilty thrill in like how much carnage the Peaky Blinders are always causing. And I just didn't feel like it just didn't feel as fun as I wanted it to feel to wrap up. as someone who just watched the first two seasons and couldn't even get through the first episode of season three. Yeah.

  I just the the show had kind of left my sphere of interest. I think the Peaky Blinders movie, a bit like House of Dynamite, another Netflix movie, is Netflix kind of at their best and their worst at the same time. it had a budget, it had these amazing locations, had a perfect cast, including our queen, Rebecca Ferguson.

  But I think I think especially with Peaky Blinders, everything felt a little a little teamw, a little rushed, a little sloppy. it also looked a little drop shipped. It looked a little, yes. like

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  A bit for hire. There's some journeyman creatives doing very competent work that with all the fixins you'd get from Netflix when they're giving you kind of a blank check. everything you'd expect for this really huge budget. But I think, unlike you, for anyone who hasn't built up 13 years of investment and watching this show, and if you did. This is the good shit. I think for a lot of people who watch this, it's got like a 93% in Rotten Tomatoes.

  I think this show is is very, very popular. It's got plenty of fan service in it. I think it could have been co-written by someone from the subreddit for Peaky Blinders. Like this probably has a very big approval rating. But also has those things that Matt Damon warned us about recently when talking about how Netflix is telling showrunners and creatives you have to put a set piece in the first seventy five or eighty seconds. Guess what?

  Or five minutes. This one was the first seventy five seconds. I'm calling that bombing scene that. Yeah. You think so? It was an explosion. Yeah. You know? It has to have the literal bang. It has to have a lot of feeding sort of the information to the viewer in a sort of ham fisted way. Well, I talked about those two pieces of dialogue that are just like, I'm gonna tell you what's happening next. Yeah.

  Some of the stuff even at the end when they're coming up with their operation to attack the Nazis and kill the Beckett character. Yeah. And then I think about Sinners, which I watched right after watching Peaky Blinders. I watched Peaky Blinders on Monday. I watched Sinners on Tuesday. Sinners had a budget of 90 million dollars. This movie, Peaky Blinders, The Immortal Man, probably had a budget from all speculation of at least 70 million dollars.

  Meanwhile, they are not in the same stratosphere creatively, culturally, I would even say sexually. Because one has Michael B. Jordan. And well, and that's why, like thinking back to the when I w we were talking about the the directors, Tom Harper versus my guy Anthony Byrne.

  And again, like I was this is might be recency bias a little bit, but with a much smaller budget, with an with a Netflix TV series budget, you could see the direct like director Anthony Byrne was like, We're doing Nazi stuff in England. Like, let's try to make these scenes like feel like Inglorious Bastards. Like there's this one really beautiful.

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  Scene. I think it's in season five, if I'm remembering correctly. Sorry, fans, if I'm missing that. But like I think you're safe in this episode. Literally shot through a champagne coupe. Like at you know, those towers of champagne coupes. Like they're not an they're basically at like a a black shirt rally for the aristocracy.

  And they're having this tense back and forth between Tommy and his wife at the time and and Oswald Mosley, the Nazi, and his mistress, who's also hardcore Nazi. And it's like literally shot through this, like these champagne glasses. It's like Gorgeous.

  And so, like the thing you were saying about like journeyman filmmakers making things like a journeyman filmmaker who's competently but doesn't have a ton of vision can what they're doing with 70 or eight whatever million dollars versus like what somebody who has like a real panache can do with a lot less money, but like a vision for a scene.

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  One movie I want to shout out because I love to talk about like a movie that something makes me think about. Yeah. A movie directed by a guy named Phil Juanu who directed the U2 Rattle and Hum documentary. And he did I think he did a couple other movies. He did the Richard Gere movie called Final An I think Final Analysis, if I remember correctly. Phil Juanu directed a movie called State of Grace. Irish Mob in New York City. Okay.

  Sean Penn, Gary Oldman, Gary Oldman, his character. When did this movie come out? Nineteen ninety. Okay. Gary Oldman's character is called Jackie. He's the kind of Fredo Corleone character. Robin Wright is the love interest. Ed Harris, John Tutoro, Hell's Kitchen, which I think is now called Clinton. Soundtrack by Annual Morricone. I'm Irish muscle in these circumstances. We drink and we shoot people, and I'm gonna get caught in it.

  That's what you want, fine. I'm warning you. I gotta go back to Boston. You're an asshole. You're talking like an asshole. Run away or run the fuck away when none of you can fucking find me. I thought you kitchen guys were were tough guys. Tough neck! Just an amazing movie. If you haven't seen that movie, I think it's like one of the most underrated State of Grace. State of Grace. Irish Mafia in New York. I wanted to talk about Killian Murphy.

  All right. Where are you at on Killian Murphy? You like him? I love Killian Murphy. I think he's like one of my the favorite actors of that generation. Every time he's on screen, I'm like getting closer. Like I might just give him a little kiss if I'm in my living room. I have not seen a lot of his movies. You're behind on some of his movies, yeah. So far behind. No, but I'm actually not that surprised.

  Some of the ones you said you haven't seen, I'm not that shocked by. Dunkirk, I get it. I could that could I didn't see Oppenheimer, speaking of Christopher Nolan, until recently. Well, and he's and I didn't I didn't love Oppenheimer the way that it got appreciated and where it's at in the history.

  Christopher Nolan for me is Dunkirk, it's interstellar, it's the prestige. and then the rest of the stuff that he's really famous for, including Oppenheimer, including Dark Knight, I'm just kind of like meh.

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  Yeah, I mean for for a superhero movie, I think like I like his trilogy ba about as well as any other superhero trilogy I've seen. Yeah. kind of grating on a curve there. You know, and Killian Murphy is like, I loved him in twenty eight days later. That's probably one of my comps. yeah. And I think he was like just kind of a character actor, almost a journeyman. He would always come in with these kind of great roles.

  He kind reminds me of like an Irish like almost like a Daniel Day Lewis or something. Like I don't know if he's method, but like he always comes with like some super intense Yeah he's an intense guy. A weird take on He started in theater. Yeah, totally. But I think I was like not watching movies when he started to become a leading man, kind of. Or like a more important like part of an ensemble cast. And so I just missed a bunch of his stuff.

  I'm gonna give you a bag of three movies to watch. Well, you've seen Twenty Eight Days Later. So that's a that's that's one of my three that of I would point out in his career. A movie shot like he still looks gorgeous when he's being Shot with a $3,000 video camera that I also owned called a Canon XL1. That's right. That's what he shot that with. This is one of the things I love about Danny Boyle.

  And then of course he did 28 years later with a shit ton of iPhones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. the other two movies that I want to bring up. So I'm gonna do, I just want to do some kind of non-Peaky Blinders, Killian Murphy appreciation. Gotta start with Red Eye. West Craven movie came out in 2005. wow, yeah. His character is on this plane. And this is a tiny bit of a spoiler, but he's sort of the villainy guy.

  The movie came out twenty years ago, if you haven't seen it. And he has this kind of a role with a Rachel McAdams character where he's up to no good, but you don't question whether or not he's up to no good. So you don't really like undermine the character of Rachel Mc Rachel Rachel McAdams because you're kind of thinking, whatever this Killian Murphy guy is saying, I'm seduced fully. Wait a minute. You're not stalking me, are you?

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  You got me. I'm sorry.

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  and the other movie I wanted to shout out would be The Wind That Shakes Barley. Came out in two thousand six, directed by the great Ken Loach. It's about the Irish War of Independence and the Irish Civil War, shot by the legendary Barry Aykroyd, who we talked about on the House of Dynamite episode. Yeah. Because he shot that. He shot Hurt Locker, Captain Phillips. Beautiful looking movie. Ken Loach is a legend and Killian Murphy's great in that.

  It's a great movie. The Wind That Shakes Barley. The Wind That Shakes Barley. So your th your three comps were all within like five years of each other. Yeah. And it's interesting. I'm I don't think I'm a completionist either with the stuff that he's done. Tim Roth is a fantastic villain in this, but you and I have talked about this movie before. This is not his best scummy, hateworthy role. It would definitely be his character in Rob Roy. yeah.

  You watched that movie, right? We talked about this movie. So I was been a million years. I watched this movie as part of a double feature with my mother at the Fox Theater. my God. Knowing what happens in that movie, that's really well disturbing. Pulp fiction into Rob Roy for my dear blessed evangelical mother. And she's still talking to you. She's yeah, she still seems to like me. But Rob Roy came out the same year as Braveheart, I think. Yeah.

  But it got massively overshadowed, of course. I I I I don't think I've seen it since high school, but I remember being like, my god, if I survive this, if mom doesn't kill me for taking her to these two movies, I'm gonna really remember. Rob Roy's great, and Tim Roth is a Amazing villain. He's so disgusting. He plays a character called Archibald Cunningham. And my favorite memory of that performance, he gets a he's this terrible dude.

  He gets a peasant girl pregnant, and she says she loves him. And he says, Then it will not be the first bastard born in Scotland. Archie, I love you. Love is a dunghill, Betty, and I am but a cock that climbs upon it to crow. Love is a dunghill, Betty, and I am but a cock. Cock who climbs atop it to crow. Just a line that always stuck out to me. I had to I had to go look that up, but I was like, God, he's so gross in that movie. All right.

  Do you have any other thoughts on the Peaky Blinders movie, The Immortal Man, before we wrap Luke? Just that like it's it's sort of like the guy Richie. Like I again, like I kind of want to go back and rewatch. I actually kind of want to rewatch this series start to finish, and I kinda wanna do it at the same time I'm rewatching Boardwalk Empire and just kind of compare. yeah.

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  I think I would come out on saying that Boardwalk Empire obviously I finished Boardwalk Empire down to the last drop and thought I thought it went out strong. It did. I fucking love that show. And again, though, I thought the series went out strong. The Peggy Blinders series and it's two different kinds of sort of historical filmmaking.

  One is the more Boardwalk Empire is like high Terrence Winter, high prestige TV, which means it's like sort of like high period drama cinema equivalent. And this again is like the pulpier version. And I I think there's a place. Like it is is it high art? No. Is it a really propulsive story that made me want to like dig into history? I you and I were talking about this video games.

  Like I play every Assassin's Creed video game, even though they suck. Just because I like I like being in, you know, ancient Egypt, you know, whatever, or you know, Japan or whatever. It's just like I love I love historical settings. And I as much as I love a you know, a a prestige period drama like Boardwalk Empire, I also have like a real, real love for like the Pulpier, the Guy Ritchie, the, you know, Guy Ritchie Sherlock I loved.

  Just so much fun. Loved them both actually. Were there two of two of those or three? At least two. Yeah, I don't remember about I don't remember the third. I brought up a weird show that I do think because we talked about it on Monday. The tutors. I know that the tutors and peaky blinders you wouldn't think would have very much in common, but just in general, the kind of lots of really rich dialogue. Yeah.

  Lots of and it's Jonathan Reese Myers, Henry Cavill's in that, Annabelle Wallace, who's Grace in Peaky Blinders is in it, Natalie Dormer. Natalie Dormer, who is oof, yeah, queen. You like her. yeah. So watch Boardwalk Empire. And watch the tutors. Watch the tutors. Did you watch Tutors? Yeah, yeah. Loved that show. No, it's the first thing I ever saw Henry Cable in, by the way. I don't even think I realized that was Henry Cable because.

  Yeah, he's like his main guy. Yeah. He's like his buddy. Jonathan Reese. Yeah. His bro. Is Jonathan Reese Myers who who plays King Henry. Yeah. All right. That's gonna do it for this episode of all those moments. We haven't decided yet what our next movie's gonna be. I am very interested in the following. In the you missed the trailers for this. Yeah. So you might not have seen this, but

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  There's a new movie called Omaha starring John Mugaro. and the newest David Lowry movie who directed The Green Knight, which I fucking loved. Did you see The Green Knight? No, but that's a Dev Patel, right? Yep. And A24. Yeah. Such a great movie. called Mother Mary. Is this new movie that's coming out? Okay. looks so good. And then should we do, I don't know. I'm just gonna see this in real time here.

  Should we do the Zendaya Robert Pattinson movie, the A24 movie called The Drama? Have you seen the trailers for that? No, I haven't seen the trailers for it. Okay. I it's A24. Trailer left me feeling a little cold.

  It reminded me kind of like a dark version of the materialists, which if you listen to that episode where we talked about that, not my thing at all. and by the way, speaking of Guy Richie, he has a new movie coming out on May 15th from Black Bear Pictures, who also produced Train Dreams, by the way. Called In the Gray, starring Henry Kaville, Aza Gonzalez, and Jake Jillan Hall. Interesting. Yeah. it's gonna be wide release.

  I talked to Joe about it from the Magic Lantern. Yeah. So he may or may not want to bring it to the Magic Lantern, but Okay. I would love to see a new Guy Ritchie movie. especially with those actors and the fact that it's a Black Bear Pictures movie. We've been doing it. Who are really cool, by the Yeah, no, totally. They're producing a lot of series.

  Honestly, like Guy Ritchie is like he took the gentleman movie that he made right at the beginning of the pandemic and turned it into a series like last year or something. And it's like I liked I watched the movie. The movie was fine. the series I liked a lot better. So I I always have a soft swap for Guy Ritchie. And we've been doing some I'll watch anything he does. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Totally. Yeah.

  So follow us on Instagram to see updates about what we're going to do next. I'll try to put together a little calendar of our upcoming episodes. follow us on YouTube. I think the YouTube channel's been lighting up a little bit. So that's been fun to see. So subscribe there. That's probably the best place to follow the podcast. Of course it's on Spotify. I upload video there too, but they automatically put an MP3 out.

  For all the on the RSS feed for anybody who just wants audio only. This is a very video forward podcast. Anyway, that's gonna do it. Thank you to the magic lantern, of course. Thank you everyone for watching or listening. And thank you, Luke. Thanks, Benji. That was more of a Jason state though.

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  All those moments will be lost in time by now.